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convulsive_flesh_machine Offline




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21.11.2008 21:04
THEMA: mündigkeit antworten
hmmm, jein. ich denke man muss zwischen erzwungenen kompromissen (beispiel jobcenter) und den "gewählten" kompromissen unterscheiden. bei letzteren, denke ich, lässt es sich vereinbaren, manche bereiche seiner freiheit schränkt zugunsten einer sache ja gern ein.

das ist eine schwierige "kiste". es gibt nach dir zwei arten von kompromissen. ich würde sagen, da steckt richtiges drin und deine antwort hat meinen überlegungen weitergeholfen.
ich denke ein kompromiss schließt freiheit der entscheidung mit ein, dem gegenüber zugeständnisse zu machen. das wäre bei dir glaube ich der "gewählte kompromiss". hinzu kommt die frage, warum gibt man in form von zugeständnissen einen teil seiner freiheit ab? es hängt wahrscheinlich mit den zielen oder zwecken ab, die man glaubt, mit einem kompromiss besser erreichen zu können. zu einem kompromiss gehören mindestens zwei leute. beide glauben also, mit einem kompromiss die ziele besser ereichen zu können. hier kommt die frage auf, welchen vorteil hat der typ hinterm schreibtisch des jobcenters?
ich bin beim "erzwungenen kompromiss" skeptisch?


ich "leide" unter einem system, welches ich selbst am leben erhalte. da ich das ganze auf diesen aspekt beschränke

ein sehr tiefgründiger gedanke, der erstmal gedacht werden muss. und ich verstehe natürlich, was du meinst. ich fragte bloß, weil es mich verwirrte, dass du mit zwei "sprachen" spieltest. einmal gibt es bei dir das opfer-täter-sprachspiel im juristischen sinn, also wie es unsere regierung verwendet. ein anderes mal spichst du in der sprache deines eigenen wertesystems.
ich kann also zugleich täter und opfer sein, je nachdem, welches sprachspiel ich spiele. ist das bei dir eigentlich so oder habe ich das falsch verstanden?

knifflige frage. innerhalb dieses systems? oder ohne jegliche beschränkungen? das erfordert eine lange antwort, ich denke mal darüber nach. was meinst du mit sozialer freiheit?

ich fragte, weil dein gedanke an manchen stellen des textes sehr resolut formuliert war. so dass ich den eindruck hatte, dass das, was du (in diesen textstellen zumindest) zu suchen scheinst (keine kompromisse machen zu müssen etc.), tatsächlich nur auf der einsamen insel gibt. und das willst du ja nicht. was du willst, so wie ich dich verstanden habe, ist weniger fremdbestimmung, du willst zwänge abbauen. aber ich glaube nicht, dass du kompromisse verteufelst. so hatte dich taane verstanden. und an manchen stellen kann man deine zeilen so lesen.

um freiheit geht es auf jeden fall, sicher auch um andere dinge, die in direktem zusammenhang damit stehen. gesellschaftskritik, selbstreflektion, die ewige frage, wer man ist...

ah ja, danke!

meine antworten sind natürlich nicht ausgegoren aber es ist sapnnend, darüber nachzudenken.





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23.11.2008 21:29
THEMA: mündigkeit antworten
danke für die antworten, im moment ist es bei mir zeitlich sehr knapp, aber ich werde darauf reagieren :-)
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28.11.2008 21:08
THEMA: mündigkeit antworten
ich fragte, weil dein gedanke an manchen stellen des textes sehr resolut formuliert war. so dass ich den eindruck hatte, dass das, was du (in diesen textstellen zumindest) zu suchen scheinst (keine kompromisse machen zu müssen etc.), tatsächlich nur auf der einsamen insel gibt. und das willst du ja nicht.

in der konsequenz hast du aber recht.





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04.04.2017 04:04
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aber genau das wollen die "linken" doch: immer mehr staat, immer weniger eigenverantwortung. liberal ist doch für sie schon ein schimpfwort...

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